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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese cartoon

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Non-notable per WP:BAND, lots of passing mentions on blogs (and one article on MTV site) due to involvement of Lupe Fiasco but no significant coverage of the band from WP:Reliable sources. Propose merge of referenced content to Lupe Fiasco, and revert this back to a redirect to Anime or Manga. Empty Buffer (talk) 10:26, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just want to add that Lupe Fiasco does sing in the group. However, he goes by his real name (Waslu Jaco) rather than Lupe Fiasco when he is a part of Japanese Cartoon. When he speaks in interviews as Lupe, he denies that he is a part of the group, but that's the Lupe "character" speaking. This has led to confusion. Waslu Jaco openly admits that he is a member of Japanese Cartoon as well as rapping under the name "Lupe Fiasco". And I don't believe that Japanese Cartoon currently satifies WP:BAND even if he is in it. - Richard Cavell (talk) 01:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In an interview with BBC Radio Lupe Fiasco states Japanese Cartoon as his band: link
WP:BAND says: 12. Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.
WP:BAND says: "1. Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.[note 1]
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.138.67 (talk) 06:40, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To satisfy Proudfoot, another member of the band is a notable musician "Le Messie" he is referenced as Producer on 4 time Grammy Nominated record The Cool (Nominated for Best Rap Album, which makes Le Messie a Grammy nominated Songwriter/Producer). He is listed as Songwriter & Producer of the Song "Fighters Feat. Matthew Santos on The Cool
This would satisfy Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians.
Admins please check and revert. Tks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.138.67 (talk) 06:43, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The band is one of the additional major outlets of material by a major hip hop artist, and its weight and notability can be backed up by reliable sources as well as the hype and mystery surrounding his conflict with his record label, which is sure to have fueled the success of some of the recent material. — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 05:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedure:
  1. Move to Japanese Cartoon (band),
  2. Redirect to Anime, and
  3. Add a "You may be looking for" notice.

This procedure is suggested as "Japanese cartoon" is a probable search term for anime. T3h 1337 b0y 03:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BAND says: "1. Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.[note 1]
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis."
WP:BAND says: 6. Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians. Another member of the band is a notable musician "Le Messie" he is referenced as Producer on 4 time Grammy Nominated record The Cool (Nominated for Best Rap Album, which makes Le Messie a Grammy nominated Songwriter/Producer). He is listed as Songwriter & Producer of the Song "Fighters Feat. Matthew Santos on The Cool
WP:BAND says: 12. Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network. [2]
You need to realize that this is a probable search tearm for anime. T3h 1337 b0y 03:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I do however, under google search for "Japanese Cartoon" the band comes out first. That shows a general consensus of the band relating to a more popular search of the words "Japanese Cartoon". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.81.187 (talk) 03:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Considering there is no Wikipedia article for Le Messie, how are we supposed to gauge his notability? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 18:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • As listed above Le Messie can be found noted on The Cool Wikipedia as well as Lupe Fiasco's Wikipedia. This should constitute enough notability factor as a Grammy Nominated Producer and notable musician. I'm sure in due time with his presence in Japanese Cartoon, his own wikipedia page will be created.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
  1. ^ http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1644559/20100727/fiasco__lupe.jhtml
  2. ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00t2xz6/Hip_Hop_with_Semtex_D_Double_E_live_freestyle/
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